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March 10, 2013

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Congratulation on the link, Max! Well deserved. You are the go to guy on this and lots of other local "green" absurdities. I might consider subscribing to the Oregonian if they ever put a reporter like you on staff.

Thanks for stopping by again, TD, always nice to see ya! This was a bad idea from the beginning, and although the Council was told that, they went with push-polling data obtained from less than 200 of over 2000 households involved in their initial "pilot program", determined it was just great, and forced it onto everyone else - as is the Portland Way.


It's disheartening, though unsurprising, that The Zero's reporterette touched only obliquely on the issue of cost/benefit; noting that instead of transporting the garbage 23 miles (one way) to North Plains, it would be trucked "more than 200 miles". But then, The Zero doesn't like to upset Portland and Metro "leaders". My figures, at 460 miles round-trip, are considerably more accurate and demonstrate the negative benefit relative to cost. You don't need to do linear regression analysis to figure that out.

But hey - Portland, Metro, and The Zero all want publicity; they got it - this article got linked by Doug Ross (http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/03/larwyns-linx-ryan-repealing-obamacare.html) and other national aggregators this morning. I'm not sure it's going to give them the kind of publicity they want, but at least I spelled the names correctly...;-)

Figuring out basic consequences of actions does not come easily to Portland voters (arts tax), elected officials, or (judging by the article linked to), Oregonian reporters.

It took the commenters to make the point that trucking the food waste more than 200 miles was not "green". Apparently, the reporter didn't even learn from that. Her next article touching on the issue again left out any notion that long distance trucking was counterproductive.

http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2013/03/oregon_bill_would_add_more_ste.html

Thanks for keeping this front and center, Max.

I've visited the island several times, and have not noticed the Stanwood site - though of course, I was proceeding to the state park - which, by the way, is a beautiful area. I blame Mapquest, as included in the link; it looks as though they say it's on Camano, but maybe I didn't move in tight enough. In any case, as you note, it's pretty close - and your aunt may soon be livin' the North Plains joy.

Glass isn't made of Wikipedias; even I know that much. But the only place I'm aware of that produces bottles from recycled glass is in NE Portland. And while glass is heavy, those loads of commercial food waste are going to be comparable in weight. What's the benefit of trucking it all up there? Oh, right - Portland politicians can tout their "green and sustainable" line some more.

Diesel burned all the way up, under heavy loads. Diesel burned all the way back, carrying nothing. Diesel exhaust both ways. Road damage (weight induced). All to eventually produce...compost? Insanity.

Stanwood's not actually on Camano Island, but. My aunt lives on Camano Island, about five miles -- as the vulture flies -- from Stanwood.

I've gone hoarse trying to explain to dim bulbs that recycling is bad for the environment when you take into account the transportation costs.

Especially glass. Bottles are heavy, and you have to truck them back to some plant where they can melt them down and make new bottles. Do you know of any bottle plants nearby? Of course not. There aren't any. And remind me again what precious national resourse we save by recycling glass. What's glass made of anyway? Hmmm, Wikipedia?

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